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stat
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posted 12-05-2007 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
Jim, I live in Gary Indiana---meet me at the corner of Broadway and MLK at around 2am this Friday night, just holler my nickname "Pepper boy" (i like to cook)real loud and we'll have coffee.

p.s. Wear Burmuda shorts (it's warm this time of year) so I'll recognize you.

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sackett
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posted 12-05-2007 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sackett   Click Here to Email sackett     Edit/Delete Message
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH BREAK HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

OK, I feel better now,


Jim

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stat
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posted 12-05-2007 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
lol
Jim,
Check out this link of a trumpet solo by a beauty pageant contestant of the song "Star Wars." Stay with it as it gets funnier when she dances.
ok people, this is a REAL link;
http://www.aolvideoblog.com/2007/11/28/best-viral-videos-of-2007-no-10/

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Taylor
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posted 12-07-2007 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor   Click Here to Email Taylor     Edit/Delete Message
I just couldn't control myself today and have again been posting at AP. Will someone slap me? I am waiting for GM to regurgitate and spit out my response in a manner so it helps his fight.

BTW, we had a congrats posting that is suspicious to me. It states 'Jake' saw Myth Busters and 'after seeing the show I know that the real pros can't be beat'. His email is jake021031@... If that is his BD it makes him about 77 just like Two Block??? Okay I am paranoid. Taylor

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LouRovner
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posted 12-07-2007 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LouRovner   Click Here to Email LouRovner     Edit/Delete Message
Taylor,

You're not crazy. I read your post on AP. It's the kind of thing people should be reading. Same to Ray.

I also read the post about Mythbusters. His ID doesn't have a zero in it. It's probably his zip code.

Anyway, let's not run away from people who are giving us a pat on the back. We need as much of that as we can get.

Lou

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rnelson
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posted 12-07-2007 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for posting at anti Donna.

We bumped the Myth-Doctor stuff off the top-10, without a single response to George.

He's got to be waiting with such bored baited breath, that he's 'batin for sure.

2B is an angry and arrogant SOB - anyone talks about violence for simply being called an SOB simply likes violence. I'm tempted to provoke him, but I keep reminding myself that no good can come from that.


r
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"Hey, don't worry about it, lot's of people are 'tards. My ex-wife was a 'tard. She's a pilot now."
(Mike Judge, Idiocracy)

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Barry C
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posted 12-07-2007 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
Why don't we work on a good "post of all posts" to drop here (public) and on the AP site. We could site their venerated NAS study, the surveys that show educated scientists agree that polygraph works, etc, and put an end to George's "consensus" garbage. Lou already pointed out the truth. We've gotten bogged down in beating them up that we might be missing our greatest opportunities.

It won't be long before I quit and post my "my experience with the AP crowd" lowdown for all to see and expose them for what they are. We're going in circles now, and for what? We're training more examiners all the time, so I'm not sure what George is doing. I think we might be giving him too much credibility. Let's storm the castle, claim victory and then ignore him for a while.

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Taylor
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posted 12-07-2007 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor   Click Here to Email Taylor     Edit/Delete Message
Barry, you are quite articulate so will you start the 'bomb' process. I decided to post today after a month’s absence; I finally came out from my bridge…. However, I don't intend on debating with the AP, just providing advice to examinees and maybe correcting some bad posts here and there. Once the bomb is dropped make sure we all know and we can stay away as you suggested. It would probably drive them nuts…oh yeah they already are!

Remember when I got TB all flustered with the goat comment….lol By the way I have goats (chickens and dogs) and when I walk outside the goats start bellowing and it sounds like ‘mama’ They don't do it to the rest of my family - its real funny. Anyway, after one of TB's dumbazz posts I asked him if his goat calls him ‘mama’ and he lost it – he called me a whore and vanished for several weeks. Oh, those were the good ole days.

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rnelson
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posted 12-07-2007 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for posting at anti Donna.

We bumped the Myth-Doctor stuff off the top-10, without a single response to George.

He's got to be waiting with such bored baited breath, that he's 'batin for sure.

2B is an angry and arrogant SOB - anyone talks about violence for simply being called an SOB simply likes violence. I'm tempted to provoke him, but I keep reminding myself that no good can come from that.


r
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"Hey, don't worry about it, lot's of people are 'tards. My ex-wife was a 'tard. She's a pilot now."
(Mike Judge, Idiocracy)

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sackett
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posted 12-08-2007 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sackett   Click Here to Email sackett     Edit/Delete Message
stat,

I just checked out the prancing trumpeteer.

OUTSTANDING!!!

Jim

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stat
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posted 12-09-2007 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
ah Stacy Stacy Stacy----if she were 20 in 1985, then she is.....uh...Ray, help me.....oh yeah, 42. I wonder how she feels about her video being in the AOL's top 10 funniest videos of 2007. In 1983, I did a horrific break dance routine at a school talent show that someone has on video, and after Stacy's cautionary tale, I am supboena-ing the video from former classmates.

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stat
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posted 12-11-2007 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
Crap! George has officially taken away my picture/ animation privelidges. I was having fun using visual aids. What a putz. He was very upset over my treadmill graphic. You know soemthing, out of all of the forums I have visited online, his is the most rigid and humorless.

E

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ebvan
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posted 12-11-2007 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
Stat it's just his way of reaffirming that the toys are his and that you're playing in his yard.

He doesn't seem to be doing too well as far as debating the issues.

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ebvan
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posted 12-11-2007 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
Stat it's just his way of reaffirming that the toys are his and that you're playing in his yard.

He doesn't seem to be doing too well as far as debating the issues.
WOOPS Inadvertant Repitition
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stat
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posted 12-11-2007 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
2 things.

Sancho is my new hero.

The other thing is I would like members to vote on my poll as to whether you find my animations/ graphics offensive. Please vote soon and often. Thanks.

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ebvan
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posted 12-11-2007 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know STAT, Doesn't this Sancho guy seem like a little too much of a "High Noon" "Headem off at the pass" cowboy type by trying to debate GM from within the pages of his own book [GRIN ]

He did kind of coax GM out into the open by getting him to come to the aid of one of his Loyal FOG types. I think his NAMBLA analogy was on point. Sancho probably knew that the FOG would accuse him of calling GM a molester to the point that his temper would have a negative effect on his ability to present a cogent argument.

Oh well that's entertainment.

One of the questions Sergeant asked was pretty interesting so I'd like to pose it here. Do any of the examiners on this board have any cases where polygraph was proven to provide accurate results that are suported by a credible confession or incontrovertable evidence? (by the way that question was meant TIC [Tongue in Cheek)

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stat
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posted 12-11-2007 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
Ebvan,
what I meant by the "Head'em off at the Pass..." remark was that Sancho won, defeated, vanguished.....nothing. What Sancho did was create a positive and immutible image of polygraph for every viewer (hundreds) who stops by to view the message board for this week. If say, Sancho would leave the board thinking he won the war, than he would be mistaken (although Sancho wouldn't do that to his fans, hopefully.) Getting involved in unpaid polygraph defense is a noble thing, and it isn't an end game strategy. It is easy to piss George off---he is an egomaniac, but winning the pedestrians over is what matters.

Regardless of what we call puttin the spank-down on George, it is good. George rarely makes such egregious errors as he did when he required his book be sited for any advice on lying. I am glad Sancho was there.

And NO---that is not "entertainment." That is unpaid civil service, something our country and our profession could use more of.

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rnelson
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posted 12-11-2007 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
Sancho, whom ever the person is, is doing a great job.

I believe I now know which treatment program Mr. Truth is from, though he seems to be off paper at present.

r

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ebvan
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posted 12-11-2007 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think Sancho believes he'll win, but he is starting to believe that if he aims carefully GM may become more reluctant to stick his head up. It seems to have worked on sergeant for the time being but he'll surely be back.

George didn't just stumble into his error. I think Sancho used the phrase "co-wrote a book that repeatedly tells the reader it is OK to lie and deliberately conceal information." in order to induce GM to ask for proof. Ironically Sergeant helped draw him out by quoting the phrase in his posts.I think that this phrase might affect GM to the point that anyone who chooses to use it in the future might gain a bit of ground.

I think Sancho has earned an adult beverage and fine cigar. I intend to indulge in the same this very evening in his honor.

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Taylor
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posted 12-11-2007 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor   Click Here to Email Taylor     Edit/Delete Message
Since Sancho got one over on GM I bet Mean Gino will make an appearance very soon.

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Taylor
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posted 12-11-2007 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor   Click Here to Email Taylor     Edit/Delete Message
BTW, did anyone just see Two Blocks post about PCSOT - he responds to nopoly4me and states: you ask entelligent questions......

Someone please respond before I do! You know 2B and myself have a past (he called me a whore) and I would love to nail him on that one but I am trying to refrain. At least cut and paste it so he can't go in and change it later.

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ebvan
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posted 12-11-2007 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
I think Sancho Panza Quoted his "Foe paw"
That's either french for front foot or flubbup

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Taylor
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posted 12-11-2007 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor   Click Here to Email Taylor     Edit/Delete Message
Please thank Sancho for me.

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thenolieguy4u
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posted 12-12-2007 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thenolieguy4u   Click Here to Email thenolieguy4u     Edit/Delete Message
Folks,

It seems to me we have really missed the big picture when it comes to George Maschke. Any Federal Prosecutor would have a primafacie case against him given as a former Army Intelligence Officer he signed a Secrets Act statement upon exiting the service. It states that the signer will not assist any enemy of the United States in the Means, Methods, or Products of Intelligence in any form. I believe it is with a fifty year clause implied from the last day of service. George Maschke has clearly violated this given the Polygraph is a primary means of intelligence as a verification tool and protected under the trading with the enemies act, and even requires an end user certificate for delivery outside of certain NATO and SEATO nations. George has all but bragged on his site about assiting Al Queda and openly converses with convicted felons inclusive of sex offenders. Further, he not only appears to be himself on the site, but plays roles as other visitors on the site to answer his own arguments and questions.

Have none of us asked ourselves the question: Why in a time of war, when the United States has never needed Arabic and Farsi linguists more, and particularly in the intelligence community, did they not pick up George Maschke ? Either by activating his commission as so many others have had done, or by picking him up for the CIA or other Intelligence Service ? George would have us believe it was all based on the Polygraph, but are we missing something in his background under a stone yet unturned ? I believe George is a good candidate for being prosecuted under the Uniform Code of Military Justice given his violation of the Secrecies Act.

We know that he has no less than collaborated with the enemies of the United States, and in fact had failed Trimarco's test on unauthorized foreign national contacts. Further, he openly associates with known felons (self identified) on his site) in direct attempts to undermine Court Ordered Sentencing / Treatment of Sex Offenders. Does anyone know if there is even an active investigation going on of this traitorous bastard by Federal, State, or Local law enforcement ?

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Barry C
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posted 12-12-2007 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
So what are you suggesting? No prosecutor is ever going to make a martyr out of him - I hope. I suspect there is an element in the crime that requires him to "knowingly" accomplish what you claim. He argues that he is a patriot who only wants to help the truthful pass. He's concerned that the US is losing good candidates with a faulty test. There's little hope of making him out to be a traitor - even if that's true, which even some good examiners dispute. (I can see it now: The polygraph version of the Scopes trial.)

I've said this before, and I really mean it: If there were no AP site, we'd have to create it. George is the only reason some guilty people show up for tests. The problem is that he tells the truthful to try those stunts too, and that is a problem. We can educate people here, there, and most importantly, in our polygraph suites, that it's a fool who tries to help himself. If that means ridiculing the likes of GM, then so be it. He's invited it.

George says CMs work. We say they don't. There's no way any liar comes in to a test, after seeing both sides, thinking he's going to slip through with ease, and that's already a win for us.

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stat
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posted 12-12-2007 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
That was very well said Barry. Mr. C's heart is in the right place though. Pat, why don't you join the mix over there. All of the current posters can use a shift off, and it would be optimal if 20 examiners were lurking and monitoring at intervals. Having just 4 or 5 examiners do all of the PR and debunking is asking alot of them. We all have families and professions, and the site is relentlessly pursuing the last word. We as a profession outnumber them 100 to 1, but you'd never know this. Like it or not Pat, that site is the largest repository of polygraph data, and we owe it to ourselves to stake some claim or representation.

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ebvan
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posted 12-12-2007 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
While it isn't likely that you would ever see charges filed, your observations could be used at AP to explore GMs character.

Sancho has been talking about how GM tells people it's OK to lie to polygraph examiners. If someone else starts exposing violations of this security agreement it would help readers see his true nature.

Sancho has already asked hm why he is so reluctant to talk about things that he did while working for the government since he no longer works for them. This was an attempt to draw him into talking about his security agreement. If he nibbles and tells us that he is honor and legally bound by this agreement then he is vulnerable to exposure for violations he has self-disclosed. It's fun to see him wiggle when he is busted by his own words.

To continue the fishing analogy, play him easy with light drag. Don't jerk the line until you are sure he has swallowed the hook. If you don't feel like fishing maybe someone else will be willing to take up the issue. When you first throw your bait in that water, expect one of his Loyal Minions or FOGs to take up his defense, but if you are subtle and persistant you can draw him out.

HMM do recreational analogies count as a vacation?

I nominate EJohnson as this weeks winner of the unofficial "I Pissed Off Georgie and He Took Away My Toys" Medal; Hereinafter to be referred to as the "Order of the Purple Hardon". From GM's comments maybe EJ could just wear his old medal with a couple of oak leaf clusters.

Gee wouldn't that make a great graphic, I mean if EJ had graphics privlidges.

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posted 12-12-2007 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
I accept the medal with great honor and appreciation. I would like to thank all of the little people......because dwarfism is a serious genetic disorder. Also, I would like to thank George for his unwavering lunacy---his steadfast deuchebaggedness, and his consistency with the above characteristics. Thanks Ebvan for the nomination!

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ebvan
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posted 12-12-2007 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
I have a confession to make.
It's kind of hard to admit but here goes.

My name is Sancho Panza and I am a "Postaholic"

Once I start I can't seem to quit. Sometimes it even interferes with my work. My wife is always trying to get me away from bulletin boards to no avail.

She even disconnects my network sometimes but I just grab my laptop and get the WiFi I need on the street. I do this even though I know that illicit street networks are inherently unclean and dangerous.

They say that the first step is admitting you have a problem and recognizing you need help.

Can someone direct me to a chapter of
"On and On Anon" so I can begin to deal with this crippling addiction.

LEGAL DISCLAIMER: [This post is submitted for entertainment purposes only it is not intended to represent in any way shape or form any actual affliction or support group. The assertion that street networks are inherently unclean and dangerous is a satirical comment and is in no way meant to characterize any existing network in a negative light.] cc: Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe. Attornys of Record

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rnelson
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posted 12-12-2007 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
HI SANCHO!

I laughed almost as hard as I did at Skip's post of GM's personal diary.

Great job.

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Now about that award...

Order of the purple hardon...

Oak leave clusters...

graphics privileges...

** I almost wish I had some spare time for some photoshopping **

I know I have a pic of Eric somewhere.


r

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